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fingersandtoes | Posted in General Discussion on

That’s what two local handymen did for a client down the road who wanted a path to the for 1 last update 2020/07/14 other side of his 20 ft deep ravine. I went and looked at it today as the new owner is a bit worried – and rightfully so.That’s what two local handymen did for a client down the road who wanted a path to the other side of his 20 ft deep ravine. I went and looked at it today as the new owner is a bit worried – and rightfully so.

It is made up of six railway tracks, some angle iron, a half inch cable and a PT wood deck. Everything but the wood is severely corroded even though the bridge is only two years old. Sorry no pictures – I’ll try and get some before the thing collapses.

Oh, and last weekend the owner used it to stage group wedding photos!

EDIT: PICTURES KINDLY ADDED BY JOHN7G IN POST 39.


Edited 10/16/2009 2:02 pm ET by fingersandtoes

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  • JasonQ | Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for | #3

    An intriguing concept, though somewhat frightening.  Got pics?

     

  • alwaysoverbudget | | #4

    Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for i'' over a 20''m guessing on the north side of 150k for the 1 last update 2020/07/14 a walking bridge.i'' over a 20''m guessing on the north side of 150k for a walking bridge.

    how come its rotting away? is it the treated wood with steel causing it?

    Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for  

    might be cheaper to form it and pour it full of cement!

    the older for 1 last update 2020/07/14 i get ,the older i get ,

    Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for the more people tick me off

    1. TomT226 Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for | | #5

      Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for I''em on site.  Then they snake each beam over and weld or bolt it to the headwalls on either end, then attach the deck and rails.  Your bridge is only as good as the for 1 last update 2020/07/14 headwalls/footings at either end anyway, so you better put some wing-walls there to stop erosion.  These bridges are good enough to drive a tractor or truck over the creek. I''em on site.  Then they snake each beam over and weld or bolt it to the headwalls on either end, then attach the deck and rails.  Your bridge is only as good as the headwalls/footings at either end anyway, so you better put some wing-walls there to stop erosion.  These bridges are good enough to drive a tractor or truck over the creek. 

      1. ottago | | #6

        yeah, i know of one that''t

        recall if it''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0492e364b99290c5e2aeb0116cbd240e?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ft.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/0492e364b99290c5e2aeb0116cbd240e?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ft.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''t it? ;-) 

    2. fingersandtoes | | #8

      Wing walls? Funny guy!

      There are two concrete blobs at each end of about 3 yards material each into which the railway tracks have been poured upside down. The tracks are bolted together with straps which have loosened on one side so there is an 1 1/2""put some posts under it""children""comments__list-item""comment-1244509""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/Scrapr""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244509""comments__list-item__text""comments__list-item""comment-1244511""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/TomT226""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244511""comments__list-item__text""children""comments__list-item""comment-1244526""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/fingersandtoes""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244526""comments__list-item__text""Sounds like a jar-head-fubar to me... ;-)""comments__list-item""comment-1244515""comments__info comments__list-item__image""avatar""https://s3.amazonaws.com/finehomebuilding.s3.tauntoncloud.com/app/uploads/2019/01/24124938/picture-1977-profile-1x1.jpg""User avater""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/CapnMac""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244515""comments__list-item__text""scare the willies out of all users""pedestrian only""worse""comments__list-item""comment-1244512""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/YesMaam27577""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244512""comments__list-item__text""comments__list-item""comment-1244507""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/TonyCz""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244507""comments__list-item__text""comments__list-item""comment-1244513""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/YesMaam27577""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244513""comments__list-item__text""comments__list-item""comment-1244514""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/GregGibson""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244514""comments__list-item__text""children""comments__list-item""comment-1244522""comments__info comments__list-item__image""comments__list-item__copy""comments__list-item__comment-info""author""/profile/plumbbill""separator""comments__date""separator""comments__number""#comment-1244522""comments__list-item__text""structural"" ;-)

      If one was to build a truss out of that material it would be very strong, but not practical & the weight would kill most mobile cranes.

       

  • woodhak | | #16

    FS&T

    as a volunteer for my church camp i have designed (with  the help of a structural enineer) and built a bridge (30,000 lb capacity) and ropes challenge course ( 30 ft above grade) suspended from cables. the forces invloved in these types of structures are significant and not always intuitive. An engineered design is always going to be more than you would like to pay but worth every penny. A failure of this structure resulting in a 20 ft fall is real bad.

    Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for i would suggest you look on line for prefabricated bridges the type used in parks. Just google prefab bridges. These companies will provide a engineered solution for a premanufactuered structure that will come with a warrantee. A 60 foot span is well with in their capablities.

    1. Don | | #17

      Gotta tell you a Boy Scout rope bridge tale. While on Okinawa, my Boy Scout troop built a three rope bridge across a Benjo (Read that as Sewer) ditch for a pioneering project. Unfortunately, we had no trees on either end to anchor the load carrying rope to, so used a series of three stakes driven well into the ground as support anchors. We used all the appropriate rope sizes & constructed it one Sat AM. It was raining and after the third pair of boys entered it to cross, the supports on one end slooooooooooowly pulled out of the rain sodden ground & dropped two boys slowly into the rather trashy water about 10 ft below.Hope the bridge we are reading about never does that.DonDon Reinhard
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  • renosteinke | | #18

    This could be an interesting project! Let''imagine- eering''s recognize what makes a suspension bridge different from every other type of bridge. Well, as I see it, the deck itself doesn''pull''d say the anchors at either end are the real keys to the design.

    The "" don''re plenty tall enough, even allowing for the bottom 4 ft. to be set in the ground.

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  • HammerHarry | | #35

    Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for There are several provincially-built suspension foot bridges here in New Brunswick, typically they have a steel tower at each end, made of two pieces of steel piling.

    Here is a link to some info, might give you some ideas:

    http://suspension.nblighthouses.com/http://suspension.nblighthouses.com/

  • jc21 | | #31

    This one in New Portland, Maine might be good for a few ideas. It was built in 1864-1866 and is said to retain many of it''_blank''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/94d22c7e662dcc75cdb3dd78a74e0765?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fs.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/94d22c7e662dcc75cdb3dd78a74e0765?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fs.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''s a pedestrian bridge between Brunswick and Topsham ME, across the Androscoggin River. It replaced one built by Roebling in 1892, washed away in the 1936 flood.

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    1. jc21 | | #41

      LOL .......... my little brother''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/94d22c7e662dcc75cdb3dd78a74e0765?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fs.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/94d22c7e662dcc75cdb3dd78a74e0765?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fs.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''t been on the Narrows bridge yet either. I''nofollow'' section in great shape, heavy multi-beam set up and railroad ties angle iron bolted to and over the beams. I could have had more sections. Our dirt / sod hauling contractor sent his 18 wheeler and hauled the short distance for free He keeps cows on my property at no lease charge and we help each other often.

      One unintentional discovery: beams down pushed with the dozer perpendicular across the ground destory unwanted plants and provides rough fairly level grade.

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      But, I may be biased.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

    2. IMERC | | #60

      And how to dismantle the OP bridge?

      diamond charges on the cables...

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  • CooperDBM | | #51

    As a bridge engineer I''s not a suspension bridge but a cable truss (among other names). Because of the sag it might be acting as a stress-ribbon bridge under enough weight. That type of bridge can be unstable if not designed properly.It should be closed immediately and demolished.The stringers of the PT deck are probably carrying a lot of compression since the railway ties aren''s prime job is to be in compression, which it''t seem to be doing here.The bridge can''s current form.Putting a wedding party on that thing could have ended tragically.Dave

    1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | | #52

      DB Cooper!  Just the man we''ve fulfilled that responsibility, how about explaining other ways of safely constructing a footbridge across such a span.   This topic has certainly aroused a few of my dormant brain cells, others here too I suspect.  So, enlighten us please.

       

       

      1. CooperDBM | Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for | #63

        There are many ways to span that distance. Other than budget, one of the biggest variables is the soil conditions, particularly the stability of those banks. If it was a commercial application like a golf course they''s private then it might depend on whether there''s also clearly a damp environment and any steel should be protected - particularly those cables.I''re not that expensive considering what could be at stake.Dave

        1. DanH | | #69

          It might be worth the owner''ve seen several around here that have been used, taken down, and then "stored" for years. It''s the right length & configuration, and it wouldn''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''t think you would want to use one again.

        2. Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for observer | | #71

          Surespan out of Duncan probably has something kicking around.

        3. fingersandtoes Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for | Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for | #72

          Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for That''m not sure it is really necessary to replace the bridge. It leads to a little deck in the middle of no where. When I saw it I couldn''nofollow''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cd4a43ef27bf8226026b490a574d445a?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fc.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/cd4a43ef27bf8226026b490a574d445a?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fc.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''nofollow''nofollow''ll have to put in a cable car to get to the lead tower... 

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        4. NietzschesMustache Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for for 1 last update 2020/07/14 || | #77

          Here''http://www.nynjtc.org/hike/popolopen-gorgepopolopen-torne-loop'' logs with planks nailed across them. It held up for many years.Here''s about 500 feet: http://www.dormanlongtechnology.com/English/projects/Popolopen.htm. Cost about 5 mil, IIRC.This looks like fun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Puente_colgante_peatonal_construido_artesanalmente.jpg

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        5. whitedogstr8leg | | #78 whitedogstr8leg | | #78

           Just a thought here: Go to the local Guard unit and ask about a "",  The  Combat Engineers "" to put these things in.   I''d have to do would be to provide the baily, and a few cases of beer.   And we "" love our beer!

           

           

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        6. renosteinke | | #79 renosteinke | | #79

          I couldn''s nothing wrong with that old bridge that a little C-4 wouldn''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''t think we have them here in Canada.

          Edited 10/18/2009 12:43 pm ET by fingersandtoes

        7. DanH | | #80

          I love the hand rails on that last one! (I''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b8a51d61c68c683299154c7857d8d355?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fh.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b8a51d61c68c683299154c7857d8d355?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fh.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''s done in different parts of the world. 

          Have you visited Bear Mountain State Park?  I''nofollow''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b8a51d61c68c683299154c7857d8d355?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fh.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/b8a51d61c68c683299154c7857d8d355?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fh.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''m glad to have the URL to that website.  Thanks again.

        8. jc21 | | #85 jc21 | | #85

          On my trips to Maine crossing on the NY State Thruway I''d stop and poke around.

          ""  -Winston Churchill 

        9. DanH | | #86

          I understand there''s real nice. Never seen it, but read about it.
          As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz

        10. Hudson Valley Carpenter Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for | | #87

          The Erie Canal is farther upstate than I usually get, Syracuse and Rochester for example.  I just tried a search using "" and got a bunch of interesting hits. 

          BTW, if you''s the 1 last update 2020/07/14 a national web site for rails to trails too.   BTW, if you''s a national web site for rails to trails too.  

          As you might imagine that kind of riding is very pleasant and safe.  I recommend it as a way to get out of the car and see the countryside in a pristine environment.

      2. fingersandtoes | | #65

        With all the waterfront around here there are lots of local companies that make aluminum ramps for docks. If I were to get involved that is what I''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''s curiosity. Any insight would be welcome.

        I do have one one quibble with your post, which you would not have known having no local knowledge: Most weddings here end tragically anyway.

      3. renosteinke | | #55

        Assuming you really do design bridges, have the appropriate credentials and education, and have some relevant experience - and I have no reason to doubt your word - your input here is most welcome.

        Indeed, we''s all I''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/6680adee705b7a5bd8111719389cbeea?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fc.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/6680adee705b7a5bd8111719389cbeea?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fc.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''s may not be that difficult to demolish. It just needs to be shored, say off the banks, before removing the deck since the deck looks like it might be participating in holding the bridge up. I couldn''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1b314c773057dfb459967c9d4f619003?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fp.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/1b314c773057dfb459967c9d4f619003?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fp.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''m glad you said that it''m known as Mr overkill when it comes to that, as I would never want one of my structures falling & injuring someone.

        Just off the top of my head would a camelback truss style work on a lower budget that the pic would lend one to believe?

         

      4. mikeroop | | #66 mikeroop | | #66

        help me out here, i''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7125bd7c1772369a9604285261f4c0d0?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fo.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7125bd7c1772369a9604285261f4c0d0?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fo.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''t miss anything.

      5. Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for CooperDBM | for 1 last update 2020/07/14 || #68

        Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for Sorry, quite right. Not sure how I got ties in my head. They''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/46a3bafd7f154dbee519b2d2679d478d?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fr.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/46a3bafd7f154dbee519b2d2679d478d?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fr.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''s not badly corroded at all! Rails are made of a simple steel that shows rust very dramatically. The salts in the wood made the rust even more dramatic than usual.

        Actually, it''sag''all''1''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/92df094b700a9116c78f340244fa0def?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Ff.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''s entertainment value.

        I''nofollow''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/707b4f6996d734eefb16c38b96ffe980?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/707b4f6996d734eefb16c38b96ffe980?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7627b5a8ac1c9627d4676697e1e0e937?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7627b5a8ac1c9627d4676697e1e0e937?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''t need for 1 last update 2020/07/14 a laser guided bomb, you could probably drop that thing in a few minutes with a sawzall.I''nofollow''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/707b4f6996d734eefb16c38b96ffe980?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/707b4f6996d734eefb16c38b96ffe980?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7627b5a8ac1c9627d4676697e1e0e937?s=36&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g''https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/7627b5a8ac1c9627d4676697e1e0e937?s=72&d=https%3A%2F%2Fd113dx7pubfdwc.cloudfront.net%2Fapp%2Favatars%2F200x200%2Fd.png&r=g 2x''avatar avatar-36 photo''36''36''nofollow''t need a laser guided bomb, you could probably drop that thing in a few minutes with a sawzall.

        1. xxPaulCPxx | | #54

          A sawzall requires proximity to that evil thing. Did you ever read the short story "The Mangler" by Stephan King? I get the same feeling about that bridge.

          Tu stultus esRebuilding my home in Cypress, CAAlso a CRX fanatic!

          Look, just send me to my drawer.  This whole talking-to-you thing is like double punishment.

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