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02-25-2009, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Poor Boy ZJ Grand Cherokee Lifts

For all of us ZJ Owners out there that don''93 zj 4.0

I got this rig 6 months ago, and really had no intention of doing anything with it other than to drive it, but... well, you know what happens!


It started when I put a new set of Tires (and used Wheels) on it, and went for the largest that would fit in the Wheel House. I did need to cut some Bumper out of the way, and when I was done, I realized that I was going to be lifting it...


Not really knowing much about lifting a ZJ, nor how high I wanted to go, I really didn''94 with 2" Spacers still on it. U-Pull-It Junk Yards rock, cause you never know what you''t know what kind of part it was, so I was off to a good start at only $8 bucks!
I went straight home, and tore the springs out to mount these in.


This was really a good look with the Tires I had, and I felt that it was done, but something was nagging at me in the back of my mind that I wanted to go higher. I also noted that the Spacers gave a crappy ride, and felt as though the rig was proped up on top of the Coils, rather than sitting on them. I began a quest at that point, to find some means of lifting my ZJ higher.
There were some issues to resolve first though (one of them being cash!). As the rig went up the 2", I noted that the Rear Axle had pulled forward in the Wheel House, in addition to the Axle Shift due to the Track Bars. There was no way I could afford to get the Adjustable Stuff, so I set out to find an alternative.
Turns out that ''04 WJ have longer Rear Control Arms, and I found a set off an ''s List, trying to find something I could afford, and got lucky once more, with a set of Rock Krawlers that offered a 4.5" Lift. I managed to pull every rabbit out of my hat, and scored the Coils for just $40 bucks, and went to work installing them.
After I was through, there was still a bit of differance Front to Rear, and I needed to go back to the Junk Yard for an additional Stock Coil Spacer to make up the drop in the Front... for a total of 5" of Lift. I then installed the ''02 Shocks proved to be too small, so the solution there was to build Extension Brackets for the Rear (had the local Muffler Shop weld the pieces I made together), and for the Front I fabricated Stud Extenders out of 7/8" Rod. That was a bit of chore, and I really had to work at getting it right in the Front, as I didn''s List once more, and for $100 found a good set of 33''t going to stop me!
It was worth the effort.....


Not bad for under $200 Bucks!


I did test this out in the Back Woods, on some rough Trails, and in the Snow, and it did surpisingly well! It flexed nicely, and slammed through ruts without issue. The Stock Shocks made for a nice smooth ride on the Highway, and made for gentle transitions Off Road. All in all, a Low Budget Sucess!






I have done a lot more Custom Stuff to this ZJ... but that is for another Tread.

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02-26-2009, 10:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What do your drive shaft''s cool Janet Reno likes to wheel. :)[/QUOTE]
 
 
02-28-2009, 01:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Rear Drive Line was a large concern, however it only came out about 1.5" from where it rode originally (you can see the clean part now exposed). However this has not been an issue... as yet! No leaks, and no vibrations. I had maxed out flex, and full axle drop, on some of the tests I did, with no damaging results. The Pinion Pitch was corrected with the extension of the Rear Upper Control Arms.




At the Front Drive Line, there was no real issue with the Slip Yoke, however I did adjust the Cams in the Lower Control Arms to correct the Pinion Pitch to a slightly better degree:





As for the rest of this "hoopty lift job" (which does work well I might add...), here are some better shots:

Front Shock Stud Extension (7/8" Steel Rod- Threaded Coupler):



Front Sway Bar Link (1/2" Steel Rod- Treaded Coupler... with lots-o-nuts):



Front Track Bar Relocation (Hole moved over 3/4"):



Rear Shock Extension Bracket (Guys at the Muffler Shop had a laugh over this one):



Rear Sway Bar Link (3/8 Steel Rod/ Bent & Threaded at each end):



Upper Rear Control Arm Extension (3 pieces of Flat Stock Steel/Bolted through with G8):

May look scary, but the plates are stronger than the rest of the Stock Arm!



Please Note: I do not recommend that anyone attempt to copy this Lift!!
It may be funtional, and gets the job done, although making modifications of this manner may be dangerous to the safe operation of your rig, and could be in violation of the Standard Equipment Vehicle Codes in some States!!

Last edited by Monkey Wrench; 02-28-2009 at 05:16 PM. Reason: cause I could...
 
02-28-2009, 02:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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that is a great write up you should post this in the cherokee section i think some of them would appreciate it. makes me wanna get a zj just so i can lift it cheap and have another wheeler plus the g/f has been bugging me she loves the zj''s.
Thanks!
I did have this in the Cherokee Section, but got the boot to this one! Go figure. Guess it wasn''d get a different transfer case or at least address the driveshaft length. But I am taking notes I''s cool Janet Reno likes to wheel. :)[/QUOTE]

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02-28-2009, 10:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Originally Posted by Alfred W.
I''m getting the wife an 1995 Grand Cherokee monday.
If it weren''t be too great of a concern (unless she is wanting to go Hardcore Wheeling!). I just gave this one to my Wife yesterday, as I am now starting on a ''95.

Last edited by Monkey Wrench; 02-28-2009 at Woodworking Planshow to Woodworking Plans for 10:21 PM. Reason: can''re f''ve accumulated just about everything but the springs that started all this. Wish I''s, but I was looking into welding it. Now I feel dumb...friggin''t think of that is beyond me. I have to say the idea for the extended links is just genius...I forgot all about my tap & die set.

Thanks for sharing your build! I found it VERY helpful!
 
11-11-2009, 09:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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this is an awesome thread... it makes me realize how i should have just used a sawzall and bolted some 35s on my jeep for awhile instead of doing a year long build... ugh... and i would have been a better driver in the end.
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11-11-2009, 09:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Originally Posted by Colt808
I about sh!t when I came across this thread! Been driving my stock ZJ for awhile and serious coil sag has me looking at replacing all the springs. But the only junk yards out here think they can charge close to stealership prices. They''ing insane! So I set out to find the parts anywhere else. Of course the urge to lift took hold while scouring for parts online. So far I''d come across this sooner! I actually thought about the same modifications to the LCA'' bolts?! Why I didn''bout forgot this Tread was still laying in the dust bin....
 
01-24-2010, 01:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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i did some of the same stuff to my 93 zj. i did the front to rear coil swap though. the front coils are about 3'' shock extenders for $6 like the ones posted.relocated track bar as well and am currently making a double shear track bar, already welded my bracket just not sure how to make the track bar as of yet but i have 3 of them laying around to chop up,lol. heres how mine looks on 33s i got off craigs list for $50 lol,I did a ford contour electric fan conversion too with a autozone torqflo controller($18) with relay

and pics of the coil swap



















 
01-27-2010, 02:21 AM   #13 (permalink)
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This thread scares the shit out of me...

Seriously, I''m trying. To find a spring bigger then my 5.5 rear lift spring I have a 98 zj with a rustys 5.5 extreme long arm lift and rub like crazy even after cutting with my 35 inch pitbull I decided to go a little bit higher so I bought acos adjustable coil over spacers by his but they only sell fronts I need to find a solution to get my rear 2 inches higher

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